All Meeting Minutes

1995.08.31 - Excom

Thursday August 31, 1995

September 3, 1995


Cal Sailing Club

The regular meeting of the Executive Committee of the Cal Sailing Club was held at the Clubhouse on Thursday, August 31, 1995. Commodore Scott Hotes presided.

The meeting was called to order at 7:10 PM. In attendance were Scott Hotes, Veronique Anxolabehere, Narcisse, Dan Acland, Louis Benainous, and Bill Csajko. Also in attendance were members Jennifer Kirkland, Tim Brandon and Gopal Nair.

The meeting was preceded by a lecture on "Planning A Bay Cruise" by Bill Csajko.

As of August 31, 1995, the Club has the following sums of money in their respective accounts:

Checking $25,705

Money Market $18,970

Treasury Bills $40,000

Total $84,675


Commodore's Report (Scott Hotes)

Uncle Donald. Scott noted that the mast track on "Uncle Donald" has to be replaced.

Vice Commodore's Report (Veronique Anxolabehere)

Open House. There will be an Open House this weekend.

Floating Bottle. The Floating Bottle will be mailed out this weekend.

First Vice Commodore's Report (Narcisse)

Dinghy Status. Narcisse had prepared a report prior to the last meeting and left it in the Dayleader's log; the report was not noticed. She provided the report at this meeting. Only three to four Lidos were operating. The 470 was down. One Laser was fixed. The 18 HP outboard had the spark plugs changed. Work on the 30 HP skiff hull was still in progress. Lidos number 6 and 7 have centerboard problems. We still have not received the new jibs ordered for the Lidos. There are some problems with a Byte and a Rhodes 19. The Suzuki 4 HP outboard is in the shop for repair, and may get thrown out. We need to purchase some shroud wire for the Lidos.

Mikita Grinder. The Mikita grinder is missing, and we are using Peter Kuhn's personal grinder in the meantime.

Power Tool Locker. Narcisse was asked if the lock on the power tool locker was changed from a Dayleader lock to a Senior lock as discussed at the last meeting. The lock was not yet changed; Scott will change it after the meeting.

Second Vice Commodore's Report (Olivier Colliou)

No report was provided.

Third Vice Commodore's Report (Dan Acland)

Dewey Status. The mast for Dewey was ordered.

Ensign Damage. Graham Hale damaged an Ensign mainsheet while racing and repaired it.

Rear Commodore's Report (Louis Benainous)

Lack of Teachers. Louis received an e-mail message from someone who came down for lessons a couple of times during the week and found no teachers. Bill Gavelis suggested having someone call Junior Skippers to come down to teach. Louis subsequently found someone who will do this for work credit. Tim Brandon suggested giving lesson credits to teachers who come down even if no students show up, as a means to encourage teachers to come down. Various other proposals for increasing teaching participation were discussed. 

Treasurer's Report (Patrick Twohy, via e-mail dated August 31, 1995)

Status of Funds. For the record, last year at this time CSC cash and investments totaled $58,240. By the end of the fiscal year, we had $10,000 more than we had at the end of the previous fiscal year, and we seem to have upped our pace of savings due, in part, to tremendous new membership numbers over the summer. What this means is that now is an excellent time to replace boats. 

Port Captain's Report (Stephen Gehlbach)

No report was provided.

Secretary's Report (Bill Csajko)

Operating Rules. The proposed revisions to the Operating Rules are still out for review.

Listserver. The listserver has been a success so far, with a considerable number of conversations brought up on the system so far.

Advertising. Bill stated that Patrick had received an e-mail message from a company, SpeedTech, that wanted to place a link on our Internet homepage to direct people to their advertising home page. They would offer our members a ten percent discount in return for the service. Bill noted that a similar issue arose a while ago with regard to advertising in the Floating Bottle, and that he was vehemently opposed to any advertising then and still is. The reasons include our independent, non-profit status, and our ability to make decisions based on the purposes of the Club, not being swayed by advertising pressures. Tim Brandon noted that bringing in advertising dollars could help the Club financially. Louis stated that a ten percent discount was not worth having the advertising. Dan moved to direct Patrick to not accept any advertising for the homepage. Bill seconded the motion, and the motion passed with five votes for, and one against. Louis voted against the motion based on his opinion that the motion was not required, and that we may not want to prevent the Club from accepting advertising in the future based different conditions.


Exception to Age Requirement. Gopal Nair, a Junior Skipper, wanted the Executive Committee to consider either exempting his son (Arjun, age 8) from the minimum age requirement for obtaining a rating, or allow them to store an El Toro at the Club. Current Club regulations preclude anyone under the age of 16 from obtaining a rating, except the Executive Committee may lower the minimum age to 14 in special situations, so exempting his son was not considered. Scott noted that the Club has traditionally never allowed personal boats to be stored at the Club due to liability and space problems. He suggested that Gopal try storing the El Toro at Lot "W" next to Cal Adventures.

Shroud Wire. Narcisse moved to purchase 500 feet of shroud wire for the Lidos at a cost not to exceed $200. Bill seconded the motion, and the motion passed with five votes for, and one abstention. Veronique abstained based on not having enough information.

Dinghy Replacement. Louis reported on the progress made by the people in his committee getting information on potential replacement dinghies. He asked one person each on the committee to gather information on one type dinghy, and try to either get one here to the Club to try out or find where we can go to look at one. Shari Adkins, Bill Gavelis, Ed Shirk, Peter Kuhn, Alex Case and Peter Baczek are on the committee. The dinghies they are looking at are based on a list prepared by Bill Prinzmetal during previous investigations. The dinghies are the Capri 16.5, Capri 14.2, Hobie One-14, Precision 15, White 14, and Lido 14.

Scott had already researched the Capri 16.5, and had prepared a paper (handed out to the Executive Committee) that provided his rationale for selecting this model as a replacement dinghy. The Capri 14.2 is also being considered based on some of the reasons Scott selected the Capri 16.5, including the reputation of the manufacturer. Peter Kuhn is trying to find a Capri that we will be able to test. One dealer in the Sacramento area was willing to let us test sail one, but not in salt water. It was noted that an ad for a used Capri 14.2 was in the San Jose Mercury News for $1,400.

A Hobie One-14 can be rented at Lake Merritt, but it is the keel version. This boat can sail four people, and they make an industrial version, either fixed keel or centerboard.

The Precision 15 seems like a very good boat, but it is manufactured in Florida, and the closest one is in New Mexico.

The manufacturer of the White 14 is now producing 10 to 20 boats, and more information on them is being sent to us. Bill Gavelis is considering flying out to Massachusetts to look at them.

Shock is beginning to manufacture to Lido 14 again, but with a new design, similar to the improvements inherent in the White 14, such as self bailing. These changes make the Lido worth considering again. Shock is releasing the boat at the Long Beach boat show in October, and they want us to try one after that.

Scott noted that if we decide to buy the new fleet based on a one-time test sail, as opposed to buying one for rigorous testing, we need to be very thorough. Bill noted that we need consistency in the people testing the boats. Dan stated that we need to account for all relevant information other than just test sailing, such as information on the manufacturer.

A group will travel on Saturday, September 9, to various locations to test sail whatever boats we can arrange to sail by that day. Narcisse will put up a sign announcing the testing and soliciting volunteers. Scott noted that our goal should be to order the new fleet by the next General Membership meeting in November. Louis noted our ultimate goal should be to replace the fleet by next spring. A potential plan is to make a decision on the "best choice" by the end of September, buy one for rigorous testing for one month, and then order the fleet if it meets our criteria. Bill noted that the lead time on procuring the boats may preclude such a schedule.

The meeting was adjourned at 8:50 PM.

The next Executive Committee meeting is scheduled for Thursday, September 14, 1995. A lecture on "Sailing in Fog" will be presented by Saul Schumsky prior to the meeting at 6:00 PM.